democrats and the republicans. not only that, there are too many differences between folks in the republican party, between senate republicans and house republicans, between tea party republicans and those who are more friendly to corporate interests. there is virtually no prospect for anything advancing before the 2014 election. largely this is an intellectual debate where we start the discussion and hope to pick it up some time after 2014, maybe before 2016 but, honestly, who knows? >> well, we do like intellectual discussions here on "all in." heidi from "the guardian" and mike from the roosevelt institute and shahein from "the huffington post." that is "all in" for the evening. good evening, rachel. now i feel i have to live up to that. no pressure. thanks to you at home for staying with us for the next hour. all right, fayetteville, north carolina. in fayetteville, north carolina, downtown, just off campbell avenue, jackie burden and michael james, these two people, were walking down the street on december 7, 1995. and while they were walking down the street, they ran into three u.s. soldiers. they were all members of the 82nd airborne stationed nearby at ft. bragg.